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G8MNY  > TECH     03.04.24 08:33z 124 Lines 4815 Bytes #7 (0) @ WW
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Subj: Rotator 12V /P
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From: G8MNY@GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO
To  : TECH@WW

By G8MNY                                        (Updated Jun 07)
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This I built from an old Army 24V motor gearbox system & 360ø AC pot, bought
new at rally many years ago. Although the same hardware may not be available
other homebrew solutions may make this information useful.


 _______________________                    Thread º º tube to fit
³ ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³                bolt hole-ºnº inside /P pole
³ ³  edgewise  meter  ³ ³                        __º~º__
³oÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙo³                       ³       ³Rotator with
³     Left< o >Right    ³                       ³       ³geared DC motor
ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ    5 Wire Cable       ³_______³
                          with plugs & sockets  ³_______³360ø Pot
                                                =========
                                             flat base plate

DIAGRAM
                      Non locking centre
                    off change over switch
+12-15V >ÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄo o o-0V
           ³    ³            \______________________*   *____ Rotator
           ³   220R           ______________________*   *____ DC motor
          12R   ³            /
           ³    ³       0V-o o o+12V                5 way
           ³    ³                                   Cable
          5V    ÃÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ*   *ÄÄÄÄ¿
         Meter _³_   1K                                      ³
         Lamp  /_\'   ³                  .ÄÄÄÄ.              ³
           ³  9V³    1K        10K      /large \            5K
           ³    ³   Preset<ÄÄÄÄCalÄÄÄÂÄ(centre 0)ÄÂÄ*   *ÄÄ>Rotator
          5V    ³ Zero pot    Preset ³  \ meter/  ³         Pot
         Meter  ³     ³              ³   'ÄÄÄÄ'   ³          ³
         Lamp   ³    1K(not for a)   ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ´ÃÄÄÄÙ          ³
           ³    ³     ³(normal meter)      100uF             ³
    0V  >ÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ*   *ÄÄÄÄÙ
                                               plugs & sockets

MOTOR CONTROL
The simple circuit uses just a non locking change over switch to power the
under run low torque motor & gearbox, clockwise or anti-clockwise.

An under power rotator is useful for /P work as there is less chance of
damaging fouled cables or guys etc. My rotator can be left stalled with no
motor dammage, as it only draws 50mA.

Note, you do not normally need speed for aerial rotation so a well geared down
motor is best!

RF suppression of the motor may also be needed if you want to beam up on weak
signals, try adding caps like 1n, u1, 1u etc. across brushes & to motor chassis
as well as series chokes etc.

     10uH
ÄÄÂÄÄ((()ÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
  ³         ³           ³      ³
  ³ u1     === u1       ß      ³
 ===        ÃÄÄÄÄ¿   <MOTOR>  === u1
  ³     u1 ===  _³_     Ü      ³
  ³         ³  ////     ³      ³
ÄÄÁÄÄ((()ÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ
     10uH

I do not earth the rotator through the control cable so there are no DC loops.
Mast earth is provided by a clip on a flexable lead to a ground stake if
needed.


POSITION INDICATION
My rotator pot was originally a 3 phase AC pot with 2 wipers & 3 pot taps,
which was reconfigured to a straight forward 360ø track pot with no stops.

The pot is powered by a shunt regulated 9V supply. A large sensitive centre
zero meter is used (ñ1mA), but a non centre zero one can also be used.

The meter is damped by a 100uF so that a scratchy rotator pot does not cause
wild readings. The zero preset pot sets the meter zero point (centre or side) &
the cal preset pot sets the full scale indication.

If a rotator is used with stops then a geared down normal pot (e.g. 270ø) can
be used in the rotator & any unused track compensated for by this circuit.

My meter scale is marked.. as my rotator has no stops, so the needle swings
from SOUTH to SOUTH marks quickly on overturn.

   S    W    N    E    S
   ÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁ

Physical calibration when portable is done by just lifting the rotator & mast
turning whole thing & putting it back down (a brain teaser as to which
direction!). Any tendency for the rotator to spin on the ground is solved
either by a few tent pegs into grass, or placed on a sponge sheet if on tarmac.


MAST CONNECTION
My system for this rotator uses a hole in the mast pole that allows a screw to
be put into a captured nut, in the inside of the smaller rotator tube.

    ³  Mast   ³
    ³  Pole   ³
    ³         ³
    ³³Rotator³³
    ³³ Tube  ³³
    ³³       ³³
    ³³  nut  ³³ Mast
    ³ÃÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ´³ Hole
    ³³Wood   ³³/
    ³³      [³==Bolt
    ³³   nut ³³
     ÀÄÄÂÄÂÄÄÙ
/~~~~~~~³ ³~~~~~~~\ Water shed
³~~~~~Rotator~~~~~³  Cover
³      shaft      ³



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73 de John G8MNY @ GB7CIP


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